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To all who missed it, this keyboard does not ADD keys. Each key simply serves a dual purpose, press the bottom for lower case and press the top for upper case.

Re: No-CAP LOCK Keyboard Design Submission by Arise61Arise61, 1210303183|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
2 more alternatives
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1) Make Caps Lock only work in combination with Left Shift. This way the user always has to press 2 keys, and is less likely to enter Caps Lock mode.

2) Always put an LED on the Caps Lock key so the user can see he/she is in Caps Lock mode without having to look at the screen.

2 more alternatives by JvHJvH, 1204539153|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
And yet another alternative
JvHJvH 1204538133|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
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As is already mentioned in the list above: a programmable key.
The thing I would like to explicitly add is that it should also be possible to program it to function as the Caps Lock key.

And yet another alternative by JvHJvH, 1204538133|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
My alternative for the current keyboard layout
JvHJvH 1204537974|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
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A switch on the keyboard to physically disable the Caps Lock key. This way users who don't use the key can't accidentally press it.

My alternative for the current keyboard layout by JvHJvH, 1204537974|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

If you look at the typewriter, from early mechanical models to the later electronic models, you will find a Caps Lock key. However, the typewriter was not abusive to users in the way that the keyboard is. It seems that the designers of the keyboard took a superficial look at the typewriter and mimicked its layout. They did not take into consideration the design principles that went into the typewriter.

On the typewriter, the Caps Lock key is not a toggle key. Pressing the key does not switch between states. No matter how many times you pressed the key, the end result is the same; caps-locked.

When you pressed the Caps Lock key, it remained physically depressed. You could see and feel that the typewriter was in caps-locked mode. The best the keyboard provides is indirect indication with a LED lit in the corner of the keyboard, amidst an array of other LEDs.

On the typewriter, the caps lock mode was very transient. Pressing either Shift key would release the caps lock. A typist that did not notice a caps-lock state would automatically be released from this mode as the shift key is pressed to begin the next sentence. As such, tHE eRROR oF tYPING lIKE tHIS never occurred on the typewriter.

The design of the typewriter Caps Lock key seems to consider human behavioral norms. The keyboard abuses these behaviors. There are no logical reasons for the keyboard not to follow the design patterns set forth by the typewriter. On the contrary, the keyboard brought an opportunity to improve upon the design. It is a shame we are still stuck with the results of this wrong turn.

The Typewriter Legacy by VarsoilVarsoil, 1196088175|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Addition: Left/right upstroke
keybouncekeybounce 1195158206|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Open Letter

There is one more item needed.

Please make keyboards with the "stroke directions" lined up for the directions the fingers actually move. On a standard keyboard, the right fingers will stroke up and to the left, or down and to the right, which is the direction that the keys run. However, the fingers on the left hand want to stroke up and to the right, but the keys for the left hand stroke up and to the left.

This may have made sense 100 years ago, when typewriters were first created. Given the new improvements in manufacturing over the last century, this no longer makes manufacturing sense, and never made body-mechanic sense.

Additionally, this will force the keyboard to be wider — in particular, it will force the "rest" or "home" position of the hands to be slightly farther apart, further helping body mechanics.

Finally, although "seperated" left and right half keyboards make a lot of sense — especially with "wave", curved/raised layouts, please please please duplicate the "b", "y", and "6" keys — currently "assigned" to finger strokes that are often easier to make from the other hand — on both sides of the keyboard. Thank you.

Addition: Left/right upstroke by keybouncekeybounce, 1195158206|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
simply remap the Caps Lock key...
makimaki 1193953041|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Community / General » simply remap the Caps Lock key...

Keyboard re-mapping software lets you assign the Caps Lock a different function or completely disable it. You can also assign a far-to-reach key the funcion of Caps Lock in case you really need it.

Of course this kind of software goes far beyond that. It can let you assign any key almost any function - changing a letter, launching an application, sending keystrokes, sending a command such as "maximize a window", etc.

Let's share in this thread suggestions for free- and shareware keyboard re-mapping software.

My own suggestions are:

freeware: http://www.serio-soft.com - it can change any key on any keyboard, thus it gives you full control over multimedia keyboards' additional keys. It's rarely updated and has a few bugs, but the biggest con for international users is that it is available only in Russian.

shareware: http://softboy.net/key/index.htm - excellent in features; has all the features of the freeware above plus more. I haven't used it for a long time so I cannot comment on bugs and support; interface is somewhat cheap looking.

simply remap the Caps Lock key... by makimaki, 1193953041|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Apple Keyboard
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The Keyboard by Apple, MB110LL/A, has not removed the key from the keyboard but they have added a delay so it is less likely to be used by accident. And the functionality of the Caps Lock key can be removed completely if one goes to System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Modifier Keys (bottom of the window) > Select the pull down menu for Cap Lock Key > Select No Action > close system preferences. Now, the Caps Lock key no longer works.

Apple Keyboard by wsjessupwsjessup, 1191595164|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hello, I am professor of types, I have worked in education by 10 years. I have an own distribution of keyboard and I would like to participate in the aid. Lamentably not to be spoken nor to write in English. Ayúdenme please. Gracias moc.liamtoh|72ocsesirc#moc.liamtoh|72ocsesirc

Hola, soy profesor de mecanografía, he trabajado en educación por 10 años. Tengo una distribución propia de teclado y me gustaría participar en el concurso. Lamentablemente no se hablar ni escribir en ingles. Ayúdenme por favor. Gracias moc.liamtoh|72ocsesirc#moc.liamtoh|72ocsesirc

Re: Million Dollar Keyboard 1.0 by crisesco27crisesco27, 1189875721|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Scroll Lock should get the boot, and PrntScrn could go hang with the fs

Re: Million Dollar Keyboard 1.0 by kevinchaikevinchai, 1176330214|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Actually, that was my first guess :P

Re: Colemak keyboard layout by super6super6, 1167765828|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: editors keyboard
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in discussion Million Dollar Keyboard / Accepted submissions » editors keyboard

porosenok,

Thanks for your elegant design. I like it very much, and I hope you'll refine your ideas and publish keyboard maps for it. You get an 'Honorable Mention'.

Re: editors keyboard by pieterhpieterh, 1167755521|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Dreamboard
pieterhpieterh 1167755383|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Million Dollar Keyboard / Accepted submissions » Dreamboard

MalcolmKe,

Thanks for submitting your very interesting designs.

Re: Dreamboard by pieterhpieterh, 1167755383|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Nice concept, you win an "Honorable Mention" for solving the Caps Lock problem neatly. Thanks for taking part!

Re: Customizable Compact Qwerty by pieterhpieterh, 1167755063|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Great job. Mostly, you seem to be arriving at the same conclusion as Colemak, putting backspace on the Caps Lock key and optimising the layout of the keys without making any physical keyboard changes. This is definitely the right way to get people to change their habits - making small changes.

I like Asset a lot, but I have to admit that I like Colemak slightly better.

You get an 'Honorable Mention', and I want to thank you for taking part.

Re: The Asset Keyboard by pieterhpieterh, 1167754857|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hey, don't second-guess the judges… :)

Re: Colemak keyboard layout by pieterhpieterh, 1167754373|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: V-Board
pieterhpieterh 1167754258|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
in discussion Million Dollar Keyboard / Accepted submissions » V-Board

Super6,

An amazing keyboard, with lots of good ideas. But sometimes simpler is better.

You get an 'Honorable Mention', and I want to thank you for taking part.

Re: V-Board by pieterhpieterh, 1167754258|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

NikeStyle,

Your keyboard is interesting, and I don't blame you for getting lots of votes, though getting people to register just to vote for your keyboard is not a good measure. We want people to comment and vote because we want to see which keyboards are really well designed. So your keyboard… like I said, interesting, but has some flaws. First, like some other keyboards here, it's not a new layout but a whole new design, which makes it useless for manufacturers. You're not actually solving the Caps Lock problem, but redesigning the whole concept of the keyboard.

You get an 'Honorable Mention', and I want to thank you for taking part.

Re: Note from the Organisers by pieterhpieterh, 1167753918|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Gratz on winning, it's a great layout in terms of the classic keyboard feel, nice work and happy new year!

Re: Colemak keyboard layout by super6super6, 1167627454|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Similarity to QWERTY is very important in the learning stage in order to make learning easier and faster. Once you master a new keyboard layout, you'll often start to forget how to type in QWERTY. People who have been typing in Dvorak for a long time and need to use QWERTY for one reason or another find themselves almost unable to type. If for example, you move the Shift keys, it would be much more difficult to adjust from ToB keyboard to a normal laptop keyboard, for example.

It's a QWERTY world after all. I used Dvorak for two years before I gave up on it. I had to use QWERTY some of the time, and switching between layouts was very error prone and difficult. I find it much easier to switch back and forth between Colemak and QWERTY because it's much easier to hunt keys when I'm typing on Colemak.

Perhaps part of what makes it more difficult to switch between Dvorak and Qwerty is that Dvorak is very asymmetric. Once your brain has adapted to the left hand doing all the vowels and that about the only thing can be done in rolls are diphtongs and consonant clusters, it's harder to go back to Qwerty. But I don't know.

For me, personally, the easiest changes to learn are 1. moving the keys up or down 2. mirroring them to the excact opposite posititon 3. swapping similiar letters, like P and B. The hardest are those that move keys from the stronger two fingers to the weaker ones and to make it even worse, flip hands while doing it. And by hardest I mean those that I find it disgusting to accommodate to my nervous system, not the ones that are take the longest to hunt or whatever.

But I'm not that familiar with the long term effects on maintaining “fluency” on multiple layouts. If you must move some keys, is it better to just try move them close to the original positions, or away from them, to avoid mix-ups? Then what again is close, and are there some kinds of changes, despite being easy to learn, that would melt down in your mind over time and often cause mix-ups? Like that Dvorak Y and T thing you mentioned.

If languages are to trust, learning another, similiar language would be easy as long as you're fluent with the first one. Also at first the hardest to memorize would be words, but in the long run what would take the most effort would be learning the structures, sentence formation and all the other more abstract aspects of thought that drive the upper, actual levels of speech. Interference is also so much more common in these deeper areas where it is often hard to draw excact lines between the two languages.

Is there a point to make out of this all? Even though it would take time to learn a thing at first, it may only mean that it's this simple “upper level” detail which won't bother you much in future. The most difficult to get used to are changes at the deepest, possibly even invisible levels where even small alterations can cause complete structural collapses. But which are the smallest detail-like aspects in layout memorizing and which the deeper ones which we rather just leave to intuition, that I would like to know…

Punctuation keys are ridiculously easy to learn anyway, even though they do require a bit getting used to, and I can go back to the Qwerty way with no problems.

You perform the finger balance calculation as if 'X' position is as easy to press as the 'S' position. Again, you shouldn't put the letter 'D' on the 'W' position.

You're correct, the keys should be weighed differently in the finger balance percentages. I still fail to see the problem with the D position though, but it is probably just me then. I have put keys like M, F, P or G there in recent versions as a compromise.

I however find the the Qwerty U position, where you have L, to be even worse than Qwerty W. Pressing it almost always requires a long stretch of the index finger and forces the other fingers to be turned a bit outwards as well. After it pressing other keys with the same hand is quite uncomfortable. It also makes the index fingers roll around the center a lot more than would be necessary, resulting in an increasing actual finger distance. Placing uncommon characters on the top row would greatly reduce index finger stress and distance…This was one of the reasons I started modifying Colemak in the first place.

Same finger is definitely a bad thing, especially with the weak fingers. e.g. try to press QZQZQZ and see how tiring it is. When typing in high speeds (>80WPM), same finger becomes one of the most important factors for speed, and combos/rolls become much less significant. Every time you have to hit a same-finger, it slows you down and interrupts your typing stream. I really don't think I'm overstating the importance of same-finger, it really is very important as it affects typing fluency, speed, accuracy, and strain. Words such as "wryly" require pressing 5 times with the same finger.

There are certain bad combos which slow down typing almost as much as same-fingers. Try something like RAT vs RTD on Colemak. Those should also be eliminated, the roll direction should be kept towards the center, Qwerty positions should be respscted, combos and hand alteration should be optimized; scores under 2.0 are impossible without sacrificing anything.

Moreover, designing for low same-finger doesn't have to conflict with any other design principle. Colemak, Capewell, Klausler's, Maltron, Arensito all achieve very low same-finger. Arensito is also designed for maximum combos like ToB, so there's no excuse to design a modern keyboard layout with such high same-finger ratio.

-Colemak is an almost Dvorak-like layout which almost never keeps the fingers in a flowing motion and is far from symmetric
-Capewell (close) and Maltron are not Qwerty-like layouts, have a bad finger balance and as far as I know have more bad combos
-Arensito is designed for ergonomic keyboards with even rows (it places three keys on ring and middle fingers), which makes layout designing a lot easier, and it isn't Qwerty-based
- The fact that Klausler couldn't find a layout better than Dvorak already shows that we should completely disregard him

The pinkies work too hard, the pinkies do too much same-finger

If the apostrophe thing is let aside, the only difference in pinkie usage between our layouts, is that in ToB the comma is added on the left pinkie. The right one still has more stress, if shift presses are not counted anyway. Maybe you just found it hard to get used to the new location of the punctuation and felt it as strain at first… The way comma and dot are pressed should put more strain on the wrists more than on the fingers, so once you get used to it, it shouldn't stress the pinkies as much. I will change the punctuation back to normal though if others report strain as well.

same-hand jumping combos such as "BU" cause strain, large distance same-finger combos such "BY" are difficult to type

Since B is about as close to both hands, it is supposed to be altered between them depending on the following / previous keys. This is something I learned to do on Qwerty anyway. This should solve the issue of uncomfortable stretches and same-finger typing involving it. Moreover, Y can be pressed with the middle finger to avoid same-finger typing, much the same way you'd likely type GR on Qwerty.

I miss O on the home position, D is uncomfortable to type. Typing 'the' is nice, but I don't think it's worth all the other sacrifices you made in the layout.

I think I'll have to move the O down in future versions, which will probably make my layout more like Arensito or Capewell. Only better. :P I'll also stop making compromises for the other languages. I've got the alternatives pretty much thought out already, even though I have to read something about how the memory works before moving further… But even before that, I'll take a little break from keyboard designing, spend more time with my friends and fulfill all my other New Year's promises (here we actually make promises instead of wishes), finish Twilight Princess and the list goes on… But I'll be back anyway to kick all your other designer asses and actually release the layout someday.

Finally, I like the first version better, but here's my current one anyway: (less same-finger, much more bad combos)

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Happy New Year to everyone and congratulations to Shai for winning. ^_^

Re: Thumb-o-Board 2000 by leizoorleizoor, 1167623529|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
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